3Speak issues and Discussion, Gambling Apps on Hive, Taxes, etc. .:. Recap of Hive Humpday Hangout SE #09 (Wednesday, October 30, 2024)

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I know guys that we are missing the previous two show's recap posts and recordings, but I'm still waiting for 3Speak to sort out their issues... When the upload option is available, I will publish both missing shows, episodes 30 and 31... I have already edited both videos and prepared them for publishing... Also, both descriptions/written posts are ready in drafts, and LEN tokens for participation are already sent too! I'm sorry that you have to wait so long for recordings, but they are worth waiting as both shows were amazing! You don't want to miss them... :)


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In the meantime, we had the third show, but this one is one of the "Special Edition" series, and that means that it was not recorded on purpose! In these shows, there is no script or "pre-arranged" topic for the show as participants come up with them live, in the show... We had no idea what would be the topic for this one, but in the end, we had a few of them and we had a great discussion with different views and opinions... Exactly as we like it!


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At the beginning of the show, as I mentioned 3Speak issues, we had a discussion about it... @jza was talking about onboarding people in Cuba to 3Speak as they were looking for some alternatives to YouTube and other mainstream platforms... The main issue is the high minimum payment amount that many creators never reach... By using 3Speak, that can be avoided... I was expecting that taking out money from crypto is a problem in Cuba, but to my surprise, @jza explained that it isn't...

We went back to the 3Speak discussion and their current business model... Whether it is sustainable or not, and in those moments @felixxx joined the discussion too, comparing 3Speak with YouTube, or with other similar platforms on HIVE... @duskobgd threw in the idea about the subscription model as one of the monetary solutions for 3Speak, so we talked a bit about that too...


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After the "swiss-knife" view of HIVE that @felixxx explained, somehow, we dived into the huge discussion about betting and gambling websites on HIVE... Could they work and why we don't have more of them? Here we got another Hivian joining the discussion, as @quekery shared his views about it... Also, he mentioned a couple of existing betting websites on HIVE...

Closer to the end of the show, the discussion led to the talk about taxes around the globe, firstly in Germany, but also in other countries... Does anyone know how crypto should be taxed, and in the end, why would it be? 🙂 For the end, we were left the open question by @felixxx:

"Why do we pay taxes if they are printing the money whenever there is a need to do it?"


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We had 13 people in the show (including myself), some of them came for just a few minutes, while the majority were there the whole show! I would like to thank, @bulkathos, @duskobgd, @felixxx, @foxkoit, @jza, @melinda010100, @palomap3, @quekery, @sacra97, @sahi1, @travoved, and shahriar! Thanks everyone for participating!!!


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Thank you, guys and girls, once again! As a sign of appreciation, I will send some LEN tokens to all participants of the live show! You can pair them with LENM tokens, add liquidity to the diesel pool, and earn rewards! If you want to learn more about the project behind it, check out the @liotes account or visit the Liotes website... Of course, if you are not interested in it, you can sell tokens on the Hive-Engine market...

To encourage more people to come on the mic, I have sent an additional 100 Ecency POINTS to people who shared their thoughts in voice with us (this time we had 3 participants in voice)! So POINTS are going to @jza, @felixxx, and @quekery!

Special thanks goes to @melinda010100 and @good-karma for providing the space for the event!

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Check out these links to the previous shows:

Episode NumberTitleLink
31TBALink
30TBALink
29HiveFest9, Impressions by @ninaeatshere, @achim03, and othersLink
28How Do We Spend Our Crypto?Link
SE08The Gang is Back, Breaking the LimitsLink
SE07Ecency Waves, HivePower, Splinterlands, HiveFest, LPs, and more!Link
27How Hive Proposals Work?Link
26Content Creation ExperiencesLink
SE06Education, Traveling Ecency Spoilers, Hive elephants...Link
25Why Did the Hive Price Drop?Link
24What Do We Expect From Hive and Crypto!Link
23Aachen Meetup and WorldMapPin Talk With @detlev!Link
SE05Usernames Origins, Age, Early Retirement, Crypto Portfolio, and more...Link
22Helping Hive to ThriveLink
21Make Yourself Uncomfortable (on Hive!)Link
20First Excursions Out of the Comfort ZoneLink
SE04BuzzParty Impressions, Weekly Recap, BonfireLink
19Ways To Buy/Sell Hive!Link
SE03Foods, Crypto Research, Education, PredictionsLink
18Best Tools For Content CreationLink
17Consistency and Adding ValueLink
SE02After Show ShowLink
16CBRS Philanthropy Chat With @minigunner!Link
15Profit Taking PlanningLink
14Ecency/Hive Chat With @good-karma!Link
SE01Relaxed "Exclusive" SessionLink
13Writer's Block and How To Overcome ItLink
12Hive-Engine TokensLink
11Hive Guidelines for NewbiesLink
10NY Resolutions and Creating Hive GoalsLink
9How Was Your (HIVE) 2023?Link
8Presenta tu comunidad - ES/EN Show! - Part 2Link
7Present Your Community - Part 1Link
6How to Start on Hive?Link
5Do You Upvote Quality Posts?Link
4Genuine? Authentic? To be or not to be?Link
3Hive Power, HP Delegation, HivePUD...Link
2Hive Meetups, HiveFest, HiveBeeConLink
1Pilot Episode (Aired 2023-10-18) - The VisionLink


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Honestly, no way in hell I'm gonna pay taxes for crypto, I'll just buy vouchers with bitrefill and v4vapp, no kyc all anonimous

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That's not a bad idea at all... When you need to pull out a million, then you can think about taxes... 😃

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Same here !LOOL

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That's some nice agenda discussed. I'm glad for the recap post thank you.

By the way, I've finally hit my 4K HP😀😀😀, I'm so excited.

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Wooohoooo!
Congratulations on reaching 4K!!! I see a Dolphin rank soon! 🙂

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I see it coming soon.. Thanks for the cheers❤

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I will never pay taxes on crypto earnings. Crypto is supposed to be the way outside of the system, so why would I give in to those extortion fees?

Taxation is theft, PERIOD!

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Hehehee... It's like we are not paying enough taxes without it... 😃

I wasn't lazy so I researched a bit... :)

Here are the 97 taxes in the US tax code:
Air Transportation Taxes
Biodiesel Fuel Taxes
Building Permit Taxes
Business Registration Fees
Capital Gains Taxes
Cigarette Taxes
Court Fines
Disposal Fees
Dog License Taxes
Drivers License Fees
Employer Health Insurance Mandate Tax
Employer Medicare Taxes
Employer Social Security Taxes
Environmental Fees
Estate Taxes
Excise Taxes On Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans
Federal Corporate Taxes
Federal Income Taxes
Federal Unemployment Taxes
Fishing License Taxes
Flush Taxes
Food And Beverage License Fees
Franchise Business Taxes
Garbage Taxes
Gasoline Taxes
Gift Taxes
Gun Ownership Permits
Hazardous Material Disposal Fees
Highway Access Fees
Hotel Taxes (these are becoming quite large in some areas)
Hunting License Taxes
Import Taxes
Individual Health Insurance Mandate Taxes
Inheritance Taxes
Insect Control Hazardous Materials Licenses
Inspection Fees
Insurance Premium Taxes
Interstate User Diesel Fuel Taxes
Inventory Taxes
IRA Early Withdrawal Taxes
IRS Interest Charges
IRS Penalties
Library Taxes
License Plate Fees
Liquor Taxes
Local Corporate Taxes
Local Income Taxes
Local School Taxes
Local Unemployment Taxes
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Taxes
Medicare Taxes
Medicare Tax Surcharge On High Earning Americans Under Obamacare
Obamacare Individual Mandate Excise Tax
Obamacare Surtax On Investment Income
Parking Meters
Passport Fees
Professional Licenses And Fees (another form of taxation)
Property Taxes
Real Estate Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Taxes
Registration Fees For New Businesses
Toll Booth Taxes
Sales Taxes
Self-Employment Taxes
Sewer & Water Taxes
School Taxes
Septic Permit Taxes
Service Charge Taxes
Social Security Taxes
Special Assessments For Road Repairs Or Construction
Sports Stadium Taxes
State Corporate Taxes
State Income Taxes
State Park Entrance Fees
State Unemployment Taxes (SUTA)
Tanning Taxes
Telephone 911 Service Taxes
Telephone Federal Excise Taxes
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Taxes
Telephone State And Local Taxes
Telephone Universal Access Taxes
The Alternative Minimum Tax
Tire Recycling Fees
Tire Taxes
Tolls
Traffic Fines
Use Taxes
Utility Taxes
Vehicle Registration Taxes
Waste Management Taxes
Water Rights Fees
Watercraft Registration & Licensing Fees
Well Permit Fees
Workers Compensation Taxes
Zoning Permit Fees

Lol... That's a lot! 😃

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Yeah, it's absolutely fucking ridiculous is what it is.

That's why I build stuff without a license, hunt and fish without a license, drive as little as possible, fly as little as possible, and really do nothing but stay on our family farm, which gets taxed enough as it is, and do whatever the hell I want. Oh and I stopped filing income taxes, because most of it is in crypto anyway. They can fuck right off, lol.

We need the system dismantled!

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It sounds like an interesting idea. I wonder if 3speak is sustainable or profitable. I think they do get a portion of the video posts that get published on that end. So I am not sure unless they throw out more information on that end.

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3Speak has 10% beneficiary rewards, but with this number of videos published, I doubt it is enough to be sustainable... But it could be if HIVE would grow and we had more video content creators.

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I mean after 2 weeks of shut down, I’m starting to have my doubts about it getting fixed.
I wonder if the shutdown is more about it not being sustainable? 🤷‍♂️

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It's not that they weren't profitable for the last few months, so I doubt that that is the reason... I really hope that they will solve the issue, as HIVE without 3Speak wouldn't be the same...

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That's why the government want to tax crypto by all means. They know people will see it as a getaway, and since they can't control it why not make money off of it?

It's a house full of users for this particular show

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Yeah, that was exactly what I pointed out in the show... By taxing crypto, they had to "accept" crypto as reality... I know that it sounds weird, but that was a positive side of crypto taxes... 😃

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The Governments are so greedy, they are never satisfied they only keep wanting more, and to throttle any attempt for the common man to be free.
Let them take their eyes off of Crypto!

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Governments are like small children... Always trying to push parents to the limits... if they overdo it, they are in trouble... 😃

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Does anyone know how crypto should be taxed, and in the end, why would it be?

I think it should vary from country to country. Just like stocks, or real estate, or income. Different countries have different rules. If you live in the country, I guess the only way is to abide by the rules. Haha.

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Yeah, they are different from country to country... THe one is the same for all countries... They want YOUR money... 😃

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The government should think of ways to make the masses comfortable not over burdening them.

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That is how it SHOULD be... Unfortunately, they are burdening people... :(

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